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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 04:56:38

In case anyone else needed a good belly laugh today.

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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 04:58:25

@chu Thank you. I will never ever get sick of Cybertruck schadenfreude. Natural justice is my favourite kind of justice.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:09:24

@greg @chu

Here's the link for anyone interested. But beware, Futurism chooses to display its text in light grey on a white background which is hard to read.

futurism.com/cybertruck-brick-

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:49:10

@BobLefridge @greg @chu

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Don't wash in the sun and No windshield wiper fluid either?

Auto car wash will void warranty?

Sounds like the vehicle is not made to withstand basic wear and tear. It is not consumer ready.

Everyone get together and file a class action law suit.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:57:56

@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

A friend who may need to replace a car soon was just chatting to me why he'd never buy a Tesla.

*copied and pasted from our chat*

the reason is theya re designed like cellphones
you must know how serviceable a cellphone is right?
the body of a tesla is made from a single block of metal and assembled in a very weird way that is basically unservicable
the big car manufacturers have so much experience in designing cars everything can be serviced and replaced on them
and i'm talkign structurally
let alone everything else
another example is teslas use a bus to electronically keep the car together.. i.e. the left turn light communicates through a network to know when to turn on and off.. this saves a lot of wires... but it also means one fault in the network adn the entire car stops working
as opposed to a fault in the left turn signal means the left turn light stops working..
here's a real world example with my old car.. during the july 8th flood my car became a boat
it lost traction and floated accross the coad
y dash board died and all eledctrical systems went down
BUT my engine still kept going and i was able to put it into gear and drive off on the other side
when my dash came back on all the warning lights were on.. but my car still was able to drive
it's over engineered to the max
my cars electronics were never the same but thigns are really isolated and redundant in modern cars
in ev's less so... but i was talking structurally when comparing teslas and normal car manufacturers.. adn normal cars are superior to teslas because of their over engineering
and that crosses over to ev's made by the big 5
but the design philosophy of cellphones is in every aspect of a tesla.. so i would never buy nor recommend one to anyone
also because elon
they are neat as any flagship cellphone is super neat.. but that's it

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:25:17

@chu @BobLefridge @greg

That's a great perspective. Musky made a drivable iPhone entangled in its own universe. Maybe rose gold will be the next upgrade, cost twice as much, and still lack water resistance.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:03:29

@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg ya, tesla is a tech company trying to rediscover car design without 150 years of iterative knowhow … so, as you say, they’re basically ipads on wheels. But uglier

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 15:39:08

@Kierkegaanks @chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

No, he actively eschews the century and a half of know-how.

On the one hand it’s why his orbital fornication company penetrates space so cheaply. On the other it’s why he didn’t have active cooling on a launch pad subjected to extended blasts of rocket flames.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 15:41:30

@Aphrodite @chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg space x has (had) people who work with stroking his ego while defusing his worst impulses for improvements

Föderation EN Mo 22.04.2024 15:36:03

@Kierkegaanks @Aphrodite @chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg Well, it is basically a car for driving to mall and back, since it cannot get wet, it cannot go off-road, it cannot be washed, or left dirty, or be near salt water, or fall into potholes, or be looked at with crooked eyes.

I was just this weekend reading an article about Elmo and the "masterful gambit, sir" crowd. And just this weekend a certain country in South America had a public gathering to praise Elmo because of his comments criticizing a judge there, comments which were interpreted as pro-their-ex-far-right-president.

(As it is usual with that country, they are always late to the party, dressed in the wrong outfit, and telling the wrong jokes.)

Föderation EN Mo 22.04.2024 18:49:34

@locksmithprime @Kierkegaanks @chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

There’s a lewd and crude way of describing those sycophantic choads, but I’ll take the high ground and say that Daddy Senpai Muskrat won’t notice them no matter how much they screech their desire to…

dammit I can’t find a classy way to say it

Föderation DE Fr 19.04.2024 09:20:59

@greg @Betterifyouneil @chu @BobLefridge
Agree totally with your friend. That is why I prefer a Volvo EX40 or a Mercedes EQA over a Tesla.
Tesla is nice designed and has a slightly superior range. But it lacks in other areas I consider more apt for me.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 10:54:56

@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg I think the bus your friend is referring to is CAN bus. It's used in ALL modern cars, ICE, hybrid or EVs. Basically, if your car has automatic door locks, it most probably uses CAN bus. It's been a standard in the industry for decades now. And no, a fail in a CAN bus node doesn't bring the whole system down. CAN bus is fault-tolerant, and you should really do an awful implementation to allow a non-critical node to bring the system down.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 15:25:05

@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg Plenty of cars run a data bus for doing things. Windscreen washer control on my car are all digital. Means that the controller can sequence pumping water before wiping, and stop wiping motion if bonnet is up. I bet most modern cars with CAN bus do this for wipers, indicators etc.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:13:48

@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

Problem is that the other car manufacturers are following Tesla's lead with screens and electronics.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:17:02

@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu

It's not a consumer product.

It's when a deranged billionaire gets no pushback in his company about his "ideas" because he will fire everyone that dares to state such things.

Same with the b.s. statement that Tesla will make its future money with a focus on robotaxis. It will very clearly not. But no-one in the company will dare to say that to his face.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 15:23:14

@knud @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
The robotaxi pivot is a face-saving measure to cancel what was going to be an unprofitable economy car, especially given competition from China.

The charade will go on for a year or two, then Musk will claim government regulation and/or insurance of driverless vehicles makes it impossible to bring to market, and it will disappear into the same hole as the Boring Company/hyper loop.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:37:09

@RealGene @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu

But then Tesla will have zero product perspective. Not looking good.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 18:21:56

@knud @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu
Uh, yes.
They'll do the typical cell-phone refresh, like up the battery capacity, or decide that gull-wing doors aren't hip anymore, or make a Miata-like version of the Roadster out of the Model 3. But a coherent product line from the company that brought us the CyberHomer EV? I think not.

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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 16:50:35

@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu True believers who were duped into buying this trash will never sue their great libertaritard saviour.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:02:48

@Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg @chu it's going to take about 4 years then Tesla will be forced to offer a 100% recall.

This is a defective product that's not fit for purpose. Forced refunds are given for this bullshit all the time.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:05:40

@WagesOf @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

can't get your money if the company doesn't exist anymore. Overall sales are down, the other cars are still exploding regularly... the only thing still going up is his ego.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:07:25

@chu @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg isn't he set to get $56b in bonuses this year?

That company is so fucked up.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 17:17:05

@WagesOf @Betterifyouneil @BobLefridge @greg

🤷

I'm not privileged enough to understand executive compensation math. It seems to defy all standard rules of mathematics we learn in engineering school. I've studied calculus, fluid dynamics, even some quantum mechanics but none of this applies to executive compensation math.

The ratios don't make sense and clearly my education precludes me from understanding this kind of complex math.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 07:08:35

@BobLefridge @greg @chu if you use a browser like Opera or Vivaldi, they both have a 'force black background with white text's option in their Accessibility settings. At least on android...

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:10:26

@camless @greg @chu

While most browsers have the option, I'll never understand any web designer using difficult to read combinations as their default.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 14:15:34

@BobLefridge @camless @greg @chu while true, I wouldn’t characterize the posted site’s text color as “light gray.” The color contrast is fine, the problem is the narrow and unreadable typeface.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:33:13

@BobLefridge I like the optimism of saying "don't tell them you took it to a car wash", like they wouldn't just check the camera logs without you knowing.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:13:15

@BobLefridge @greg @chu

And it would like to share tracking and cookies with 1282 "technology partners".

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:49:56

@BobLefridge
Weird, I see black on white, which is the easiest text to read.
@greg @chu

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 13:24:33

@BobLefridge @greg @chu
Dark Reader for Firefox, or Fulguris browser my dude

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:09:31

@chu Ahh the , so delicate.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:16:18

@chu every single thing I ever hear about this enormous clustertruck of a vehicle is worse and funnier than the last.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:18:07

@Lana

So hard not to enjoy the schadenfreude.

Föderation DE Fr 19.04.2024 09:31:47

@chu @Lana Why wouldn't you want to enjoy it, and to the max, too?

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:22:30

@Lana
The Edsel of our day.

@chu

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:45:03

@Lana @chu It’s the Humane AI Pin of trucks.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 21:32:45

@Lana here for the phrase “clustertruck”.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:22:00

@chu Driver inside the cybertruck:

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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 05:51:04

@chu Musks "wank-panzer" is junk.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:06:35

@chu

I’m really curious about how they withstand a rainstorm. The coming stories of splitting apart doing a u-ee will be… expected.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:34:22

@chu Makes me wonder what'll happen to them if it rains.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:36:18

@chu Remember when Musk said the Cybertruck would be able to cross small bodies of water?

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:44:30

@MrAptronym @chu lol!
Technically this is a small body of water crossing the truck and is therfore a completely different case /s

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:50:02

@Niall @MrAptronym @chu so the underbody is waterproof. Flip the truck and it'll be carwash-safe, genius!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 06:59:28

@chu

I love everything about this.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 07:07:42

@chu Because real men don't wash

Föderation DE Fr 19.04.2024 16:11:16

@skry

😂😂😂

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 07:16:29

@chu “waterproof enough to serve briefly as a boat”😆

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 07:50:20

@chu @pallenberg das ist doch was zum kurz lachen 😅

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 07:59:50

@chu

The dystopian future is gonna be lit. Gangs of techbros marauding around the suburbs in Cybertrucks, and little kids trying to dodge them while spraying them with garden hoses 😬

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:01:22

@chu The has worse and than the fucking P601 and that thing was a cheap piece of fiber-reinforced phenolic resin on steel tubes with a two-cylinder, two-stroke air-cooled engine that couldn't even bother to have a fuel pump but had to be gravity-fed!

Yet their panel gaps were far less crooked and their cars don't get stained by rain dying up on their surface...

Even the did that look better and didn't have the issues...

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:52:13

@kkarhan @chu

as one having owned a Trabant some decades ago I can tell you it's conceptually exactly what one would want when combining indivdualist transit for the whole population and some efficiency in production and maintenance: it didn't waste fuel on mass, was *completely* self-serviceable and could fit the transport needs of a small family. (fuel efficiency was only okay when regarding the simplicity of the engine)

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:14:54

@kami_kadse @chu Shure, also its scarcity forced the to maintain networks as a necessary utility...

Also yeah, the Trabant with it's low compression two-stroke just works by virtue of being for the most part 1950s motorcycle tech just with doible the wheels and a plastic cabin and steel tubing around...

In fact, if it wasn't a regular 2+2 car, I'd consider it a by virtue of being engineered to simplicity.
github.com/KBtechnologies/PLV

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:17:53

@kkarhan @chu

die PLV of the time and day would be the "Krause Duo" 😸

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:39:16

@kami_kadse @chu I did in fact list it as such in the documentation of said Project / Concept...

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:41:19

@kkarhan @chu

indeed, you did!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:18:38

@chu sauce : futurism.com/cybertruck-brick- :ablobreach:
The rest of the story while not as fun gives a bit more context for people not following the subject :blob_cat:

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:24:00

@chu "Car Wash Mode", hilarious.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:41:54

@chu there is no carwash in postapocalyptic Musk worlds! ^^

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 08:50:30

@chu wankpanzer kaputt!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:08:18

@chu 😂

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:11:23

@chu @jimbob so not the noise you want to hear from a big electrical system that’s just suffered water damage

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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:25:41

@chu I guess they're just expecting that car washes won't exist in a post-apocalyptic world. That's actually reasonable.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:27:45

@chu All front, no substance. Very true to the Elon Musk brand!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:31:39

@chu So that’s a “car” that’s incompatible with a “car wash”, right? The sheer stupidity of the modern age and its designers is breathtaking.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 09:44:58

@chu Norway has some of the highest ownership % by population of both EVs and Tesla's.

Cybertrucks would neither be allowed on, nor survive our roads & weather if it can't handle a car wash :ms_laughing:

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:07:32

@iamada @chu I also seriously hope it isn't legal here. Cars are death machines already, but this one is so sharp and heavy that if you got driven over by one it would almost guaranteed kill you.

The electrification of cars was a mistake. We should've invested in public transit instead of increasing the weight (and hence the deadliness and road wear and tear) of vehicles. Personal cars should've been banned in cities and replaced with collectively owned cars for the times you do need one.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 10:01:35

@chu
So, basically a sculpture of Elon.
Looks and acts like a brute but in reality very sensitive with a lot of care issues.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 10:35:22

@chu xD thanks xD

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:03:03

@chu the Incel Camino is like the incel; does not wash.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:13:15

@chu for a bet, I've gone through a carwash on a recumbent bike and both me and the bike came out unharmed (and I was a rotisserie chicken richer, too)

it's cool to know that I - a disabled person and famously a massive whiny bitch - am more robust than a hundred thousand usd wankpanzer

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:23:09

@chu the car equivalent to $1000 hand wash only t-shirts

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:26:37

@chu I love the category they've filed the story in -

Cyber Paperweight / Advanced Transport

genuine lol

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 11:52:09

@chu hand wash only.

Did anyone check its tag for this icon?

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Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:03:13

@chu Advanced Transport ™️

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:08:46

@chu can survive the apocalypse but not the carwash? Figures

Föderation DE Fr 19.04.2024 12:14:32

@chu didn’t pay teslas carwash subscription?

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:26:41

@chu Real men don’t wash their cars. Or something.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:28:49

@chu Under the divisive body, it's clearly a POS. However, I'm one of those dorks who thinks the design looks kinda cool, or did. The production model isn't massively different from the prototypes they showed off, but the slight differences make all the difference. The stance is wonky in the production model. Instead of the slightly raised back end and larger bed, it is lower and the bed is smaller and misaligned panels makes it look dumpy, instead of the aggressive look they were going for.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:44:12

@chu This is so much "Homer Simpson designs a car", that would be funny if it had not got as far as being actually made!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 12:59:33

@chu Listen I really want to feel bad for the customers but... Wait no I don't 😂

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 13:22:26

@chu They need to put that in rice

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 13:52:13

@chu

Squirtle used Water Cannon!

It's super effective!

Cyberdouche has fainted!

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 13:56:32

@chu So what I am getting from this thread is that we are all SUPER STOKED to get the chips wired into our heads on Mars.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 14:49:37

@fiend_unpleasant @chu Frankly. Musk could do worse things with his money. Buying the largest collection of Farbersche Eggs, expanding his huge mining and iol empire by exploiting the environment and third world countries labourers and ressources, building a private army and doing some puffed dictators bidding. Instead he creates hundertes of jobs by perusing technological pipe dreams. Does that have some questionable side effects? Yes. But he could be worse

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 14:32:10

@chu The Joker line "ya get what ya f'ing deserve" applies to this wholeheartedly.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 14:40:13

@chu This is the quintessential SUV of these days. Look like a serious vehicle, but built to transport one occupant, their a Gucci handbag and a Chihuahua. At twice the weight and three times the fuel consumption than actually necessary. These cares are first and foremost statement pieces. They don't have to be particularly useful aside from that. Not that that's an excuse. But an explanation.

Föderation EN Fr 19.04.2024 15:20:51

@chu
Unbelievable.