· Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:47:03 @Professor_Stevens If you don't login by then, they'll still keep your account on hold. I deleted my account over a decade ago and they periodically reactivate it. I don't login again because that implies I agreed with this. They'll never truly delete your account. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:50:19 I assume what I write on the internet is forever. What they can't do is actually be me using their system. Without users, Zuck has nothing to sell to advertisers. Also, I just don't want to be associated with his operation anymore. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:51:55 @Professor_Stevens exactly |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:53:40 @Professor_Stevens I hope you're correct. I wouldn't put it past Zuk to animate "deleted" accounts using AI to make it appear as though he has more eyeballs than he actually does. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:54:39 Oh, I hope he does, actually. Advertisers know this trick and, if he gets caught lying about his platform, he could be looking at a fraud suit, possibly even a criminal charge. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:56:21 @Professor_Stevens You have more faith in laws and the justice system than I do. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:57:01 You don't need faith in either. Faith in the advertisers' love of their own money is all you'll need. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:59:27 @Professor_Stevens I doubt anyone would get far in this legal atmosphere, but it's good to establish precedent for others down the road. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:05:16 @Professor_Stevens @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan I wish it was that easy. I’d love to leave #Meta and Zuck behind. But there’s the issue that community groups I’m in are only on #Facebook and post updates only on Facebook. Also, I have connections, some of them family, where our only connection is Facebook. I know it shouldn’t be this hard, but it’s a bit of a problem for me. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:06:59 @Thumper1964 It's a problem for many. I made it a point to put my family back on my phone instead of online. Took about a year |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:20:11 @Lizette603_23 Well one thing that would do is show with crystal clarity what family members actually give a crap. My mom passed last year, and I know she used FB to keep up with me. My dad was gone before FB was even a thing, but I know he probably would have taken a dim view of it. BTW I liked what you said about social anxiety. Mine seems to be getting worse the older I get. Makes things pretty darn inconvenient sometimes. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:22:01 @Thumper1964 It does. And that's why it's important to know and acknowledge the people you know are genuine, in all walks of life. Keeps you connected to a positive source when you need to holler HELP. I'll be one of those people for you. I can't DO much, but I'm reliably here to listen or just sit with while the wave passes through. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:07:15 @Thumper1964 PS I get it Kev, I get it. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:10:26 @Thumper1964 @Professor_Stevens @LilPecan |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:15:34 @Thumper1964 @Professor_Stevens @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan as someone without FB, or anything other than Fedi, it is soooo hard! 1 thing people don’t consider is… classifieds. I moved to a rural area a few months ago & I cannot look for any used furniture, nor services, without FB! It’s kind of crazy. I still refuse to use it, but it makes everything very, very hard & lonely. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:17:56 @DEDGirl It is embedded in many ways. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:22:50 @DEDGirl The Chamber of Commerce might be helpful in connections for you. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:30:04 Check out their membership, though. Most Chambers are free-market capitalist nests. Not all, and not all members. Just keep your guard up. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:36:38 @Professor_Stevens @Lizette603_23 Yeah. I’ll look. This community is very trumpy, so it’s a toss up if they are anti help, or helpful because they are pro small govmnt. Weird times. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:38:47 @DEDGirl Yes, bizarre, but not impossible. Be sneakier than the assholes is the assignment. Typical, right?@Professor_Stevens |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:39:31 @DEDGirl As the Professor says, keep your eyes and ears open everywhere. You'll find people one by one. @Professor_Stevens |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:44:55 That's the ticket. I've known some real decent people who were Chambers just to have a vote and know what their opponents were doing. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:34:57 @Lizette603_23 thank you. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:36:25 @DEDGirl I'm partially disabled but have help and live near lots of extra help. I can only imagine your sense of isolation. Reach out whenever possible for connections in your area. I know. It's devilishly hard. xo |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:47:23 @Lizette603_23 yeah, I’m a disabled single mom with no family or help. It’s almost impossible. I just cannot bring myself to support these companies. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:49:06 @DEDGirl nodding. i have knowledge of how this is. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:29:07 @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan I hear you. I was a member of our local "Buy Nothing" FB group. Well, I'm going to approach them about having a Mastodon presence. I know it's hard, and not everyone is equally able to move at this time. But I am, and I want to encourage to consider if they are too. Fostering hate towards the powerless crosses a line with me. More than one, in fact. I was willing to give up "Buy Nothing" after that. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 23:05:49 @Professor_Stevens @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan I'll follow buy-nothing on mastodon! |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:03:06 @MissGayle @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan Now, how would we do that? On FB, Buy Nothing is done as groups, one for each locale that has a Buy Nothing community. Mastodon doesn't have groups. Could we do it with hashtags? Something else? |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:05:18 @Professor_Stevens @MissGayle @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan yeah, the tricky part is locality. |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:12:31 @Professor_Stevens @MissGayle @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 It should work with hashtags. For instance you could do #BuyNothingCollegePark and then follow that hashtag and hashtags for any other nearby region. You can also join Freecycle. |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:25:04 @Professor_Stevens @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan I think I saw somewhere there are groups of some type. Or hashtags, possibly. The master account would be @buynothing@...some server. Perhaps @FediTips can help? |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:40:40 @MissGayle @Professor_Stevens @DEDGirl @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan There are useful things called "groups" on here, but they work very differently to groups on Facebook. Groups on here are special accounts that basically just repeat any post sent to them, which makes it easier for lots of people to discuss a common topic across many servers. They're sort of like "super hashtags" because they send posts to other servers more easily. More info at https://fedi.tips/how-to-use-groups-on-the-fediverse |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 23:12:55 @Professor_Stevens @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan I miss those pages. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:25:54 @Thumper1964 @Lizette603_23 @LilPecan Where did I say it was easy? I believe what I said was, "I know it's a hard move to make." |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:41:05 @Professor_Stevens PS I love your portrait. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:46:04 My son did that. it's a "one line drawing." The artist puts the pad in their lap, and looks at you the whole time they draw it, never lifting the pen nor looking at the paper. I felt he captured me better than I'd ever been. Also, I actually look like that. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:47:05 @Professor_Stevens it definitely has life. kudos. seriously. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 22:48:31 @Professor_Stevens he made you look vaguely British lol. really a treasure to have, son and picture. |
Föderation EN So 12.01.2025 01:31:30 @Thumper1964 @Professor_Stevens @Lizette603_23 It's very difficult on purpose. The more reliant you are on FB, the more Zuk can get away with. |
Föderation EN Sa 11.01.2025 21:52:53 @LilPecan Wiggleston, same happens to me after I think 12 years now? @Professor_Stevens |